If the following information is true, how would you probably not support the armed resistance of the Palestinians against Israel, even if such resistance breaks some International laws. If I had the powers, I would have probably administered death to Netanyahu by squeeezzzing his balls and feeding them to the street dogs. Don't forget to appreciate the abundance of "e" and "z" in the spelling.
The fact that the sole intention of Israel is to slowly occupy the whole Palestinian land and wipe them off the face of the earth, as I recorded earlier, is reflected again in the news.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Israels-Likud-party-approves-West-Bank-settlement-growth-/articleshow/6087918.cms
Israel is doing it since 1947. I have no other option but to support the holy war against Israel. I'm so far away from the battlefield. If my blood can boil at such a distance, one can clearly understand the feelings of the Arabs.
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saala dhyamna maagi... terrorist der raand.,... fot saala ...
@the garbage bong alias GB: how are you saar? Do you have children to whom you can show all these comments you write here? If you could, you did not require to hide behind anonymity. How old are ya? Do you still get hard-on? The stuff you write shows the pathetic condition you live in, I pity you. I shall continue to do it more as your condition worsens.
I am just curious to know - do you support the holy war against India too? As everybody knows, the sole intention of India is to slowly occupy the whole of Kashmiri land and wipe them off the face of the earth.
I have a nagging suspicion that you would condemn the hanging of Kasab who was probably fighting for the freedom of Kashmir. Am I right?
--JS.
JS,
A very relevant question. You are right. I not only protest the hanging of Kasab, I probably hold Indian government responsible for illegally occupying the land of Kashmir and thereby, causing instability, tremendous bloodletting in the region (26/11 attack is one of them). Note that I do not also support Pakistani occupation of Kashmir too. I want an Independent Kashmir supported by both Pakistan and India, so that all the three regions can immensely benefit (economic, tourism, etc.). I do think this is what the Kashmiris want. Ethnically, culturally I think the Kashmiris are a separate community and should be left alone. Please contradict me if this is not the best, peaceful, human and fair solution for all the three regions. India (and, probably, Pakistan too), portrays Kashmir occupation as their main nationalist compulsion, when in reality, it bares the territorial and imperial fangs of both the countries. I'm pretty sure Kashmir is going to be liberated one day from India.
Good!
Now imagine your four year old daughter ripped apart by a terrorist attack. Imagine in great detail, scooping up her different body parts and putting them together like a jigsaw puzzle. Sit and visualize the scene for some time. Imagine it has already happened. Now tell me, what was her fault that she had to be killed? Just because some evil Indian Govt. (assuming that part is true) did not support a free Kashmir, a four year old girl had to be blown apart? How do you justify that "Holy" war? What is holy about murdering innocent people? And would you still want to pardon the man who killed your daughter?
Israeli lives are valuable too - as much as the life of your daughter. Yes, I agree that the Israeli reaction to terrorism against them is a bit harsh - "ten eyes for an eye" maybe, but it works! India remains a soft state and see how we are screwed every year. Like our festivals we have an annual bombing. Not that Israel isn't bombed, but if Israel stops their retaliation, they will be wiped out.
It is easy to sympathize with terrorists Mimi, until you are affected by it. Indians (those living in India) are facing it. Israelis are facing it. You and the Suzanna Arundhati Roy types may act as terrorist apologists but that does not change the truth.
Another V-E-R-Y interesting sentence in your reply:"Ethnically, culturally I think the Kashmiris are a separate community and should be left alone." Aren't you Bongs the same? The Tamils? The Keralites? The Goanese? The Assamese, the Oriyas, the Telugus? The Marathis? They all should be left alone you mean? Where do we stop? Until we have 28 countries? And are you really naive enough to believe that if we let Kashmir go the bastards next door wouldn't lap it up?
Like you, I am pretty sure that we will one day wipe out Pakistan from the world map. I hope Israel does the same to Palestine.
--JS.
JS,
There is hardly any need to sensationalize these acts of violence by appealing to personal emotions like "your daughter", "my daughter", when scores of people are dying on both sides of borders. If you talk that way, I may probably ask you, what if you are living in Palestine or Kashmir and your child is shot in the eye by the the Indian army or the Israeli commandos. Personal losses are always painful and it makes people blind and biased. So lets keep such feelings outside the discussion and debate based on facts on the table.
The facts say:
1. Kashmir and British Mandate of Palestine (which includes today's Israel) have never belonged to the Indians and Israelis respectively. They have been occupied illegally. Please read a little bit of history instead of the Israeli propaganda, and convince yourself of the fact. If we were to accept that the undivided India was to be divided based on religion, then there was no doubt that Pakistan was a big-time loser. They got less land (Indian Hyderabad denied to them), they received less public wealth. Pakistan was cheated by the Indians in collusion with the British and hence the popularity of the cliche "moth-eaten Pakistan". Do you want me to explain them with facts? Go check.
How many times the Indian news papers reminded the population that Nehru agreed to a referendum in Kashmir through a UN resolution, but gradually backed away from that. How many times the Indian newspapers publish reports of the brutalities committed by Indian army in Kashmir which in fact was the main reason for the violent backlash from the terrorists/freedom-fighters. If you really want to eradicate violence or terrorism you should not forget that "terrorism is a terrible weapon but the oppressed poor have no others." (Sartre quote).
Talking of Israel-Palestine conflict, one may easily see for themselves, how much Palestinian land - agreed in Camp David Accord -- was grabbed by the Israelis through slowly building settlements since 1947 till date.
You can very well ignore the facts and complain about terrorism from across the borders. But as long as you are hypocrites, be prepared to receive bullets from the kashmiris or the Palestinians. Because terrorism is the weapon of the oppressed. It was before, it is still now.
Mimi, I would like to know what you were smoking when you were supposed to be studying history. Nehru wanted a referendum in Pakistan occupied Kashmir but Pakistan did not want it. Why would they want a referendum when they were already occupying it?
I noticed that you cleverly sidestepped my questions, so let me reiterate them and see if you answer:
1)Let's say the Indian government is evil as you say, and it is oppressing the freedom movement in Kashmir. Now what are the "freedom fighters" going to achieve by blowing apart an innocent child like your daughter? I insist on using this example to give you a sense of perspective. Otherwise your types tend to trivialize death by saying "scores of people are dying." Now tell me, how is this killing of innocent women and children "holy" and what point are they trying to prove? That they are brave enough to kill a few hundred unarmed people with sophisticated weapons? A great act of bravery, no doubt. Don't give me BS like "terrorism is the weapon of the oppressed" because then I will assume you mean the oppressed have gone fucking crazy and need to be shot like rabid dogs. Give me a REASON for the killings of the innocent. I would suggest you watch this video and tell me which part shows they were trying to achieve something other than death and destruction.
2) Would you still oppose death penalty to Kasab if he had killed your daughter? Or say, your daughter (or some other beloved) had been killed on board a hijacked plane where the hijackers demanded the release of a captured terrorist? Don't you think the hijacking issue is enough to kill that bastard (or cherub, if you prefer) as soon as possible.
3)If Israel stops fighting, how can you guarantee that they will not be immediately wiped off by the Arabs? Similarly, if we let go of Kashmir, how do you guarantee that those "moth-eaten" neighbours for whom your heart bleeds will not be lapping it up? As far as I know, your sex does not even get to open their mouth properly in the Muslim world (which includes Arab and Pakistan the last time I checked). Then how come you have so much faith in their integrity, peace-loving nature and honest intentions?
4) Most importantly, if we release Kashmir today, how can we justify NOT releasing Tamil Nadu, West Bengal, Kerala, Goa, Sikkim, Maharashtra etc. tomorrow?
--JS.
Ki re dhyamna maagi, khanki bachha, nijeke Palistani promaan korei chharli tobe,...... beshya kothakaar,,,
I complete agree with J.S. I'm shocked to see Mimi's perspective on the issue. It seems she is a spokesperson of LeT.
dear mimi, this is the first and last time i am going to comment on your trash blog.why i call it trash because of the kind of language YOU use (and not your commentators).The only reason i am compelled to write is coz what u wrote"Ethnically, culturally I think the Kashmiris are a separate community and should be left alone". go and read a little history. have u heard of kashmiri pandits? the mountain ranges and rivers that have hindu names. just because massive conversions to islam happened in that area, that doesn't make "kashmiris" ethnically, culturally separate from the rest of India.Next you'll say that Hyderabad should be separate from India. take rest and breathe fresh air, u desperately need it
@Shana: She has already said so in her very next comment on this very post! Go ahead and read it. She says Pakistan was cheated by a joint conspiracy of Britain and India and Hyderabad was "denied" to them. Thanks God such trash does not live on our land anymore.
--JS.
FYI
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,723783,00.html
So Miss Mimi Sen I think you would not have any problems supporting the independence of Mahrashtra Gujarat or West Bengal since they are linguistically and ethnically so different from others in India..and there has never been a good definition of ethnicity..Language,Religion,food,clothes,customs are belief systems which can always be adopted..What remains then?? Race--Now Kashmiris are not a different race than rest of Indians Hell even Iranians are the same race as N.India and Pakistan
@shana: My dear, I would rather you stayed away from puking your half-baked, nonsensical, ignorance-saturated opinions on any internet forums. Feel yourself lucky that I bothered to reply to a person who equates religion to ethnicity, culture and even nationality. Do you know dear the Turks, the Arabs, the Asians, the Iranians may have the same religion but different ethnicities, languages and therefore, cultures?
@those who have asked whether I support Bengal, Maharasthra, Kerala breaking away from India because of ethnic diversity:
This is a relevant question. If there had been referendums on self-determination in those Indian states, I think people would have overwhelmingly voted against a split. The people of these states have assimilated into Indian culture through a long period time like grains ground in the gristmill, accepted their Indian identity and are now quite at peace with that. In fact together they have formed a multiculturalism what is the cornerstone of an Indian identity.
The Kashmir issue is different. Kashmiris did not identify themselves with any kind of Indianness ever; one reason bein India’s heavy handed approach to deal with them. If India had been a true democratic country, it would have granted the people of Kashmir the right to self-determination. India promised to do that through a referendum as expected from any democratic country but eventually withdrew because of the fear of losing the Kashmiri territory. I do not want to reply to J.S’s question which, ridiculously, assumes that the said referendum was promised in the Pakistan-governed Kashmir only rather than in the undivided Kashmir. My time is precious. I cannot take random questions that are based on falsehoods, misrepresentation of facts and intentional oversight. Please take some time to read authentic historical documents instead of right-wing political propaganda when you hinge your argument on some historical facts. In the present case, the TIME article the link of which was given in the previous comment said exactly what I wanted to say about Kashmir issue. Read it, and then ask questions if you have any doubts.
To close the present issue, let me bring to your attention that there were a plenty of examples where referendums were arranged by well-functioning democracies to determine the desire of people on the issue of self-governance. It is not always the case that referendum resulted in partition of a country. In a referendum in 2007, Tokelaun has rejected the option of self-governance and remained with New Zealand. Referendum was also held in Scotland in 1997, which resulted in devolution of more power but they rejected the full independence from the UK. The full independence referendum in Scotland is supposed to be held by 2010. Some of you may probably know that Belgium is also on the verge of partition into French and Flemish parts very soon through peaceful referendums. Now, you can see if a large section of people does not want to be a part of a particular country, referendum is the only way to a peaceful, democratic, and humanistic solution. India has denied that right to the Kashmiri people repeatedly in direct violation of UN resolutions, let alone committing hundreds of human rights violations in the land (please read up the TIME report on the issue published in 1957 as given in my previous comment). If you, being the more powerful, are not able to respect my freedom to choice, then please do not ask me to exercise restraints.
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As regards JS’s video, nobody is denying the unacceptability of such massacres. On the other hand, plenty of videos are available on the brutalities of Indian and Israeli army on the Internet too. But it is stupidity to hang Kasab and live in the false hope that such butchery would never happen or at least it be reduced. If you don't go deep into this matter of terrorism and are unable to bring the real culprits to book, as I said before, the oppressed have no other option but to take up arms and manifest their protest and anger by killing the so-called innocents who supposedly support the enemy side. Can you not see the writing on the wall by the recent Maoist insurgence? Where do those poverty-stricken, emaciated tribal groups get the courage from, to wage war against the mighty Indian government who spends billions of dollars for the army each year? The marginalization, deprivation and injustice for ages pushed them to the wall so tight that they have no other option than charging back? The urban middle-class like you, sitting in plush sofa, listening to news on satellite channels, without a grain of knowledge about their lives, lifestyles, would love to live in romanticized anger and to wage wars against those half-educated, uncouth, loincloth-clad tribal warriors. Go ahead with all these. Let them do what they should, what they must. After we all are fighting for survival.
Hahahahahahaha! The Arundhati Roy finally came out in the open. Don't froth at your mouth so much, you'll spoil your keyboard. So tell me, your naked, tailed, bow-and-arrow wielding Na'avi warriors who are "bravely" killing the policemen and blowing up trains by "gallantly" putting explosives on the track, they have a lot of problems, do you think? Nothing that death does not cure ma'am. Any other civilized country in the world (like the one where you have taken refuge while you pour out your vitriol against India) would have done a carpet bombing of the region and burned up the loincloth-wearers. Just because the Indian government is tolerant to a point of spinelessness, does not automatically make these criminals right.
About Kasab, do not talk like an idiot. Nobody claimed that killing him will eradicate terrorism. We only said, killing him will ensure that a plane is not hijacked in the future to get him released. also, it will send the message that you do not mess with our country without getting killed. Any civilized country would do the same (Hint: The country where you are hiding while you write these comments did the same with a certain foreign president recently. Remember?)
As for the Kashmir issue, a TIME article can hardly be called an authentic historical document, especially when for the most part, it mocks someone's manner of speech. But nice to know that you are in favor of giving the option of leaving India to Kerala, Maharashtra or West Bengal should they ask for it. I'm glad you live in the US and do not burden our land with yourself and your toxic opinions.
--JS.
@Amal Panu: I'm not a spokesperson for LeT. Nor am I trying to support the violence they are committing. I just want to emphasize (Indian government, are you listening?), more and more: LeT terrorism is not the root cause of the disturbance of peace in the subcontinent. The root problem is India's bigoted attitude and their big-brotherly behavior with all other countries in the subcontinent. India's holding on to Kashmir against all political and International norms is one such manifestation of her muscle power. If it is not stopped, it would be difficult for me to blame LeT alone for the bloodsheds.
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